moon landing reality or hoax?

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moon landing reality or hoax?

Postby WingZero on Wed 11 Jun, 2008 10:30 am

i wanted to make a poll about probably the most discussed hoax of all times, but i can't find the option.
(i couldn't find a topic on this subject, so i'll create one)

my question was, who thinks that the moonlanding (apollo mission)is real and who thinks it is a hoax.

and if some knows some good sites and avidence that it is or isn't just post here i guess...

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I am one of those peopel who believe it is a hoax.

here is some evidence:

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On all Apollo footage there should be cross hairs or reticules present on the film. These crosshairs were,
according to NASA, placed on the film to help calculate distances on the Moon. The crosshairs were actually built into the camera and therefore should be visible on every single picture taken by the astronauts on the surface of the Moon. Incidentally, Jan Lundberg has stated that the only way that you could calculate the distance in the shot using the crosshairs would be if you had two cameras set up to take a stereo picture!

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Take a look at the pictures presented here and you will see that parts of the crosshairs have disappeared from the film. This is impossible unless the film has been tampered with. The crosshairs should be completely visible in all shots and not hidden behind objects in the pictures. The only solution must be that NASA has gone to the trouble of either airbrushing out certain objects in the film, or added them over the crosshairs!

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Why does this rock have a letter 'C' on it? There is also a 'C' on the ground in front of the rock. The use of the letter C on film props is well known by the people in Hollywood and is used to show where the centre of the scene should be.
One sceptic on the Bad astronomy sceptics web group has even said it is a hair??? on both the rock and ground? Now who's trying to cover things up?


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Some of the lighting on 'official NASA film' are very suspect. The NASA picture to the left should show the astronaut in complete shadow because the sun is behind him, and yet the whole of the astronaut is caught in bright light?

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Shadows do not appear to be correct on several of the Moon shots. Take the picture to the left for example. The shadow on the LEM is due East and yet the shadows on the rocks in the foreground are South East?

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Lets move onto the famous picture of Buzz Aldrin that shows the LEM, Neil Armstrong and landing site in the reflection of his visor. One of the strange things with this picture is that the reticule that is supposed to be in the middle of the picture actually shows up at the bottom of Aldrin's right leg? How can this be when the camera is attached to the cameraman's chest??? A fact that is easily verifiable by the reflection of the cameraman in the visor.


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Many people have speculated that the pictures have been retouched to bring up the detail of the astronauts. But this cannot be applied to the Apollo 11 photographs because a duplicate copy of the original Armstrong film has been analyzed and shows that the pictures are all on one continuous roll of film that contains over 100 images. Even Jan Lundberg from Hasselblad, the makers of the camera, says that the pictures seem as though Armstrong is standing in a spotlight. The only way the reticule could appear in the bottom of the leg is if the picture had been copied and reframed!!!

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The horizon is about 89 degrees from the true vertical. Dr Groves has worked out that after analysing the shadows cast by both the astronaut in the picture and the supposed cameraman in the visor, that Armstrong who is taking the picture is standing on ground that is a mere few inches higher than where Aldrin is stood, If this is the case, then it means that whoever took the shot was in fact at least 2 feet higher than Aldrin and therefore means that Armstrong, although visible with the camera in the visor, is not the actual person who took the shot.

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We have to remember that the camera used didn't actually have any viewfinder, and the astronauts could not see the whole of the camera that was strapped to their chests due to the restrictions posed by their spacesuits. They had to use their body to point in the rough direction of their subject. The astronauts even had to change the lens whilst stood outside on the lunar surface, wearing their heavy gloves. A feat that is quite hard to believe considering the very awkward pressurized gauntlets that they were wearing. The precaution of changing the film inside the LEM was not adhered to and could have ended in disaster if the film had actually been dropped into the dust on the ground. And what about the exposure to the heat?
It would have been virtually impossible to change the film and adjust the lenses in such apparatus. However in certain films, they do seem to be wearing different gloves that do not seem to be pressurized?

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How can we see so much detail on the gold portion of the Lunar Lander in this picture? As is evident by the shadow in front of the module, the Sun is in the background and the gold area should be covered with shadow, not Sunlight? And why does the 'Sun' have a halo around it if the Moon has no atmosphere?


and to close of a question i came up with: it was a race to the moon between america and rusia.
The americans won, but still why didn't russia ever send a man to the moon until today?

asnwer: because it is impossible due to many factors.
1 of them i think is the radiation in space.

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This is only part of the "evidence" i found on a site: http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/cosmicapollo.html

so my question is what do you guys think...?

I belive that the moonlanding is faked, and that it has been shot at area51 (that is the reason why it is such a top secret facility).
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Re: moon landing reality or hoax?

Postby Odin on Wed 11 Jun, 2008 11:26 am

Well... The problem is that even the Russians confirmed the landing, and they had the most benefit of saying it was a hoax. But some of the evidence is pretty convincing. What if they actually landed but didn't take any pictures because of malfunctions in the equipment? Then they took some pictures in a studio to keep the people happy.
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Re: moon landing reality or hoax?

Postby thundercave on Wed 11 Jun, 2008 7:17 pm

well it would be allot simpler to lounge a vcr and a transemitter to the moon, to make fake a transmission and confince the rusian's. that they where on the moon....
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Re: moon landing reality or hoax?

Postby wallarookiller on Tue 19 May, 2009 6:19 pm

I think that it was real. Isn't there a flag up there that we can see from Earth????
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Re: moon landing reality or hoax?

Postby straffehond on Tue 08 Sep, 2009 9:09 am

The "C" on the rock was coincidence. But you are totally right... It looks a bit fake to me. The evidence is shown here...
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Re: moon landing reality or hoax?

Postby gertrugehoy on Mon 16 Aug, 2010 9:48 am

Hai I am Gertrude Hoy. To my knowledge it is hoax. I am also supporting the above points. Also the photographs show that US flag is flying, how can it be possible in moon?
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